FOREWORD TO THE ORIGINAL TAMIL VERSION
The Tamil-speaking world knows the life-history and the spiritual
instructions of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi well through the books
which have already come out. He shines in the resplendent Arunachala
Hill (Tiruvannamalai) as the sun of knowledge which destroys the sorrows
of those who worship him. In this book named Upadesa Manjari (bouquet
of spiritual instructions) Sri Natanananda, a true devotee of his, who serves
and praises him by laying at his lotus feet many garlands of songs, has
brought out Bhagavan’s words heard by him at different times. They consist
of questions and answers comprising four chapters entitled upadesa
(instruction), abhyasa (practice), anubhava (experience) and arudha
(attainment). I humbly request devotees to accept this small book which
offers wholesome food for the spirit.
VISWANATHAN SRI RAMANASRAMAM 2-2-34
I seek refuge at the sacred feet of the blessed Ramana, who performs the
entire work of creation, preservation and destruction, while remaining
wholly unattached, and who makes us aware of what is real and thus protects
us, that I may set down his words fittingly.
IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK
Worshipping with the instruments (of thought, word and body) the sacred
lotus feet of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, the very embodiment of the
beginningless infinite supreme Brahman, the Satchitananda (existence,
consciousness, bliss), I have gathered this bouquet of the flowers of his
instructions (upadesamanjari) for the benefit of those who are foremost
among the seekers of Liberation and who are adored by learned persons,
in order that they might adorn themselves with it and attain salvation.
This book is an epitome of the immortal words of that great soul, Sri Ramana
Maharshi, whose teachings entirely dispelled the doubts and wrong notions
of this humble person even as the sun dispels darkness.
The subject of this book is that eternal Brahman which shines as the pinnacle
and heart of all the Vedas and Agamas.
That incomparable Self-realization (atmasiddhi) which is praised by all
the Upanisads and which is the supreme good to be sought by all noble
aspirants (brahmavids) is the theme of this work.
1. What are the marks of a real teacher (Sadguru)?
Steady abidance in the Self, looking at all with an equal eye, unshakeable courage at all times, in
all places and circumstances, etc.
2. What are the marks of an earnest disciple (sadsisya)?
An intense longing for the removal of sorrow and attainment of joy and an intense aversion for all
kinds of mundane pleasure.
3. What are the characteristics of instruction (upadesa)?
The word ‘upadesa’ means : ‘near the place or seat’ (upa - near, desa - place or seat). The Guru
who is the embodiment of that which is indicated by the terms sat, chit, and ananda (existence,
consciousness and bliss), prevents the disciple who, on account of his acceptance of the forms of
the objects of the senses, has swerved from his true state and is consequently distressed and
buffeted by joys and sorrows, from continuing so and establishes him in his own real nature
Upadesa also means showing a distant object quite near. It is brought home to the disciple that the
Brahman which he believes to be distant and different from himself is near and not different from
4. If it be true that the Guru is one’s own Self (atman), what is the principle underlying the
doctrine which says that, however learned a disciple may be or whatever occult powers he may
possess, he cannot attain self-realization (atma-siddhi) without the grace of the Guru?
Although in absolute truth the state of the Guru is that of oneself it is very hard for the Self which
has become the individual soul (jiva) through ignorance to realize its true state or nature without
the grace of the Guru.
All mental concepts are controlled by the mere presence of the real Guru. If he were to say to one
who arrogantly claims that he has seen the further shore of the ocean of learning or one who claims
arrogantly that he can perform deeds which are well-nigh impossible, “Yes, you learnt all that is
to be learnt, but have you learnt (to know) yourself? And you who are capable of performing
deeds which are almost impossible, have you seen yourself?”, they will bow their heads (in
shame) and remain silent. Thus it is evident that only by the grace of the Guru and by no other
accomplishment is it possible to know oneself.
5. What are the marks of the Guru’s grace?
It is beyond words or thoughts.
6. If that is so, how is it that it is said that the disciple realizes his true state by the Guru’s
It is like the elephant which wakes up on seeing a lion in its dream. Even as the elephant wakes up
at the mere sight of the lion, so too is it certain that the disciple wakes up from the sleep of
ignorance into the wakefulness of true knowledge through the Guru’s benevolent look of grace.
7. What is the significance of the saying that the nature of the real Guru is that of the Supreme
In the case of the individual soul which desires to attain the state of true knowledge or the state of
Godhood (Isvara) and with that object always practises devotion, when the individual’s devotion
has reached a mature stage, the Lord who is the witness of that individual soul and identical with
it, comes forth in human form with the help of sat-chit-ananda, His three natural features, and
form and name which he also graciously assumes, and in the guise of blessing the disciple, absorbs
him in Himself. According to this doctrine the Guru can truly be called the Lord.
8. How then did some great persons attain knowledge without a Guru?
To a few mature persons the Lord shines as the light of knowledge and imparts awareness of the
9. What is the end of devotion (bhakti) and the path of Siddhanta (i.e., Saiva Siddhanta)?
It is to learn the truth that all one’s actions performed with unselfish devotion, with the aid of the
three purified instruments (body, speech and mind), in the capacity of the servant of the Lord,
become the Lord’s actions, and to stand forth free from the sense of ‘I’ and ‘mine’. This is also the
truth of what the Saiva-Siddhantins call para-bhakti (supreme devotion) or living in the service
of God (irai-pani-nittral).
10. What is the end of the path of knowledge (jnana) or Vedanta?
It is to know the truth that the ‘I’ is not different from the Lord (Isvara) and to be free from the
feeling of being the doer (kartrtva, ahamkara).
11. How can it be said that the end of both these paths is the same?
Whatever the means, the destruction of the sense ‘I’ and ‘mine’ is the goal, and as these are
interdependent, the destruction of either of them causes the destruction of the other; therefore in order
to achieve that state of Silence which is beyond thought and word, either the path of knowledge
which removes the sense of ‘I’ or the path of devotion which removes the sense of ‘mine’, will
suffice. So there is no doubt that the end of the paths of devotion and knowledge is one and the same.
NOTE: So long as the ‘I’ exists it is necessary to accept the Lord also. If any one wishes to regain easily the
supreme state of identity (sayujya) now lost to him, it is only proper that he should accept this conclusion.
12. What is the mark of the ego?
The individual soul of the form of ‘I’ is the ego The Self which is of the nature of intelligence
(chit) has no sense of ‘I’. Nor does the insentient body possess a sense of ‘I’. The mysterious
appearance of a delusive ego between the intelligent and the insentient, being the root cause of all
these troubles, upon its destruction by whatever means, that which really exists will be seen as it
is. This is called Liberation (moksha).
1. What is the method of practice?
As the Self of a person who tries to attain Self-realization is not different from him and as there is
nothing other than or superior to him to be attained by him, Self-realization being only the realization
of one’s own nature, the seeker of Liberation realizes, without doubts or misconceptions, his real
nature by distinguishing the eternal from the transient, and never swerves from his natural state.
This is known as the practice of knowledge. This is the enquiry leading to Self-realization.
2. Can this path of enquiry be followed by all aspirants?
This is suitable only for the ripe souls. The rest should follow different methods according to the
state of their minds.
3. What are the other methods?
They are (i) stuti, (ii) japa, (iii) dhyana, (iv) yoga,(v) jnana, etc.
(i) stuti is singing the praises of the Lord with a great feeling of devotion.
(ii) japa is uttering the names of the gods or sacred mantras like Om either mentally or
verbally.(While following the methods of stuti and japa the mind will sometimes be concentrated
(lit. closed) and sometimes diffused (lit. open). The vagaries of the mind will not be evident to
those who follow these methods).
(iii) dhyana denotes the repetition of the names, etc., mentally (japa) with feelings of devotion. In
this method the state of the mind will be understood easily. For the mind does not become
concentrated and diffused simultaneously. When one is in dhyana it does not contact the objects
of the senses, and when it is in contact with the objects it is not in dhyana. Therefore those who
are in this state can observe the vagaries of the mind then and there and by stopping the mind from
thinking other thoughts, fix it in dhyana. Perfection in dhyana is the state of abiding in the Self
(lit., abiding in the form of ‘that’ tadakaranilai) .
As meditation functions in an exceedingly subtle manner at the source of the mind it is not difficult
to perceive its rise and subsidence.
(iv) yoga: The source of the breath is the same as that of the mind; therefore the subsidence of
either leads effortlessly to that of the other. The practice of stilling the mind through breath control
(pranayama) is called yoga.
Fixing their minds on psychic centres such as the sahasrara (lit. the thousand-petalled lotus)
yogis remain any length of time without awareness of their bodies. As long as this state continues
they appear to be immersed in some kind of joy. But when the mind which has become tranquil
emerges (becomes active again) it resumes its worldly thoughts. It is therefore necessary to train
it with the help of practices like , whenever it becomes externalised. It will then attain a
state in which there is neither subsidence nor emergence.
(v) jnana is the annihilation of the mind in which it is made to assume the form of the Self through
the constant practice of dhyana or enquiry (vichara). The extinction of the mind is the state in
which there is a cessation of all efforts. Those who are established in this state never swerve from
their true state. The terms ‘silence’ (mouna) and inaction refer to this state alone.
(1) All practices are followed only with the object of concentrating the mind. As all the mental
activities like remembering, forgetting, desiring, hating, attracting, discarding, etc., are modifications of the
mind, they cannot be one’s true state. Simple, changeless being is one’s true nature. Therefore to know the
truth of one’s being and to be it, is known as release from bondage and the destruction of the knot (granthi
nasam). Until this state of tranquillity of mind is firmly attained, the practice of unswerving abidance in the
Self and keeping the mind unsoiled by various thoughts, is essential for an aspirant.
(2) Although the practices for achieving strength of mind are numerous, all of them achieve the same end.
For it can be seen that whoever concentrates his mind on any object, will, on the cessation of all mental
concepts, ultimately remain merely as that object. This is called successful meditation (dhyana siddhi).
Those who follow the path of enquiry realize that the mind which remains at the end of the enquiry is
Brahman. Those who practise meditation realize that the mind which remains at the end of the meditation
is the object of their meditation. As the result is the same in either case it is the duty of aspirants to practise
continuously either of these methods till the goal is reached.
4. Is the state of ‘being still’ a state involving effort or effortless?
It is not an effortless state of indolence. All mundane activities which are ordinarily called effort
are performed with the aid of a portion of the mind and with frequent breaks. But the act of
communion with the Self (atma vyavahara) or remaining still inwardly is intense activity which
is performed with the entire mind and without break.
Maya (delusion or ignorance) which cannot be destroyed by any other act is completely destroyed
by this intense activity which is called ‘silence’ (mouna).
5. What is the nature of maya?
Maya is that which makes us regard as non-existent the Self, the Reality, which is always and
everywhere present, all-pervasive and self-luminous, and as existent the individual soul (jiva),
the world (jagat), and God (para) which have been conclusively proved to be non-existent at all
times and places.
6. As the Self shines fully of its own accord why is it not generally recognised like the other
objects of the world by all persons?
Wherever particular objects are known it is the Self which has known itself in the form of those
objects. For what is known as knowledge or awareness is only the patency of the Self (atma
sakti). The Self is the only sentient object. There is nothing apart from the Self. If there are such
objects they are all insentient and therefore cannot either know themselves or mutually know one
another. It is because the Self does not know its true nature in this manner that it seems to be
immersed and struggling in the ocean of birth (and death) in the form of the individual soul.
7. Although the Lord is all-pervasive it appears, from passages like “adorning him through His
Grace”, that He can be known only through His grace. How then can the individual soul by its
own efforts attain self-realization in he absence of the Lord’s Grace?
As the Lord denotes the Self and as Grace means the Lord’s presence or revelation, there is no
time when the Lord remains unknown. If the light of the sun is invisible to the owl it is only the
fault of that bird and not of the sun. Similarly can the unawareness by ignorant persons of the Self
which is always of the nature of awareness be other than their own fault? How can it be the fault
of the Self? It is because Grace is of the very nature of the Lord that He is well-known as ‘the
blessed Grace’. Therefore the Lord, whose nature itself is Grace, does not have to bestow His
Grace. Nor is there any particular time for bestowing His Grace.
8. What part of the body is the abode of the Self?
The heart on the right side of the chest is generally indicated. This is because we usually point to
the right side of the chest when we refer to ourselves. Some say that the sahasrara (the thousandpetalled
lotus) is the abode of the Self. But if that were true the head should not fall forward when
we go to sleep or faint.
9. What is the nature of the heart?
The sacred texts describing it say:
Between the two nipples, below the chest and above the abdomen, there are six organs of different
colours(These are not the same as the Chakras.). One of them resembling the bud of a water lily and situated two digits to the right is the
heart. It is inverted and within it is a tiny orifice which is the seat of dense darkness (ignorance)
full of desires. All the psychic nerves (nadis) depend upon it. It is the abode of the vital forces, the
mind and the light (of consciousness).
But, although it is described thus, the meaning of the word heart (hrdayam) is the Self (atman). As
it is denoted by the terms existence, consciousness, bliss, eternal and plenum (sat, chit, anandam,
nityam, purnam) it has no differences such as exterior and interior or up and down. That tranquil
state in which all thoughts come to an end is called the state of the Self. When it is realized as it is,
there is no scope for discussions about its location inside the body or outside.
10. Why do thoughts of many objects arise in the mind even when there is no contact with
All such thoughts are due to latent tendencies (purva samskaras). They appear only to the individual
consciousness (jiva) which has forgotten its real nature and become externalised. Whenever
particular things are perceived, the enquiry “Who is it that sees them”? should be made; they will
then disappear at once.
11. How do the triple factors (i.e., knower, known and knowledge), which are absent in deep
sleep, samadhi, etc., manifest themselves in the Self (in the states of waking and dreaming)?
From the Self there arise in succession
(i) Chidabhasa (reflected consciousness) which is a kind of luminosity.
(ii) Jiva (the individual consciousness) or the seer or the first concept.
(iii) Phenomena, that is the world.
12. Since the Self is free from the notions of knowledge and ignorance how can it be said to
pervade the entire body in the shape of sentience or to impart sentience to the senses?
Wise men say that there is a connection between the source of the various psychic nerves and the
Self, that this is the knot of the heart, that the connection between the sentient and the insentient
will exist until this is cut asunder with the aid of true knowledge, that just as the subtle and
invisible force of electricity travels through wires and does many wonderful things, so the force
of the Self also travels through the psychic nerves and, pervading the entire body, imparts sentience
to the senses, and that if this knot is cut the Self will remain as it always is, without any attributes.
13. How can there be a connection between the Self which is pure knowledge and the triple
factors which are relative knowledge?
This is, in a way, like the working of a cinema as shown below:
|1) The lamp inside (the apparatus)
|2) The lens in front of the lamp
|2) The pure (sattvic) mind close to the Self.
|3) The film which is a long series of (separate photos).
|3) The stream of latent tendencies consisting of subtle thoughts.
|4) The lens, the light passing through it and the lamp, which together form the focused light.
|4) The mind, the illumination of it and the Self, which together form the seer or the Jiva.
|5) The light passing through the lens and falling on the screen.
|5) The light of the Self emerging from the mind through the senses, and falling on the world.
|6) The various kinds of pictures appearing in the light of the screen.
|6) The various forms and names appearing as the objects perceived in the light of the world.
|7) The mechanism which sets the film in motion.
|7) The divine law manifesting the latent tendencies of the mind.
Just as the pictures appear on the screen as long as the film throws the shadows through the lens,
so the phenomenal world will continue to appear to the individual in the waking and dream states
as long as there are latent mental impressions. Just as the lens magnifies the tiny specks on the film
to a huge size and as a number of pictures are shown in a second, so the mind enlarges the sproutlike
tendencies into tree-like thoughts and shows in a second innumerable worlds. Again, just as
there is only the light of the lamp visible when there is no film, so the Self alone shines without the
triple factors when the mental concepts in the form of tendencies are absent in the states of deep
sleep, swoon and samadhi. Just as the lamp illumines the lens, etc., while remaining unaffected,
the Self illumines the ego (chidabhasa), etc., while remaining unaffected.
14. What is dhyana (meditation)?
It is abiding as one’s Self without swerving in any way from one’s real nature and without feeling
that one is meditating. As one is not in the least conscious of the different states (waking, dreaming,
etc.) in this condition, the sleep (noticeable) here is also regarded as dhyana.
15. What is the difference between dhyana and samadhi?
Dhyana is achieved through deliberate mental effort; in samadhi there is no such effort.
16. What are the factors to be kept in view in dhyana ?
It is important for one who is established in his Self (atma nista) to see that he does not swerve in
the least from this absorption. By swerving from his true nature he may see before him bright
effulgences, etc., or hear (unusual) sounds or regard as real the visions of gods appearing within
or outside himself. He should not be deceived by these and forget himself.
(i) If the moments that are wasted in thinking of the objects which are not the Self, are spent on
enquiry into the Self, Self-Realization will be attained in a very short time.
(ii) Until the mind becomes established in itself some kind of bhavana (contemplation of a personified god
or goddess with deep emotion and religious feeling) is essential. Otherwise the mind will be frequently
assailed by wayward thoughts or sleep.
(iii) Without spending all the time in practising like ‘I am Siva’ or ‘I am Brahman’, which are
regarded as nirgunopasana (contemplation of the attributeless Brahman), the method of enquiry into
oneself should be practised as soon as the mental strength which is the result of such upasana (contemplation)
(iv) The excellence of the practice (sadhana) lies in not giving room for even a single mental concept (vritti)
17. What are the rules of conduct which an aspirant (sadhaka) should follow?
Moderation in food, moderation in sleep and moderation in speech.
18. How long should one practice?
Until the mind attains effortlessly its natural state of freedom from concepts, that is till the sense of
‘I’ and ‘mine’ exists no longer.
19. What is the meaning of dwelling in solitude (ekanta vasa)?
As the Self is all-pervasive it has no particular place for solitude. The state of being free from
mental concepts is called ‘dwelling in solitude’.
20. What is the sign of wisdom (viveka)?
Its beauty lies in remaining free from delusion after realising the truth once. There is fear only for
one who sees at least a slight difference in the Supreme Brahman. So long as there is the idea that
the body is the Self one cannot be a realizer of truth whoever he might be.
21. If everything happens according to karma (prarabdha: the result of one’s acts in the past)
how is one to overcome the obstacles to meditation (dhyana)?
Prarabdha concerns only the out-turned, not the in-turned mind. One who seeks his real Self will
not be afraid of any obstacle.
22. Is asceticism (sanyasa) one of the essential requisites for a person to become established in
the Self (atma nista)?
The effort that is made to get rid of attachment to one’s body is really towards abiding in the Self.
Maturity of thought and enquiry alone removes attachment to the body, not the stations of life
(asramas), such as student (brahmachari), etc. For the attachment is in the mind while the stations
pertain to the body. How can bodily stations remove the attachment in the mind? As maturity of
thought and enquiry pertain to the mind these alone can, by enquiry on the part of the same mind,
remove the attachments which have crept into it through thoughtlessness. But, as the discipline of
asceticism (sanyasasrama) is the means for attaining dispassion (vairagya), and as dispassion is
the means for enquiry, joining an order of ascetics may be regarded, in a way, as a means of
enquiry through dispassion. Instead of wasting one’s life by entering the order of ascetics before
one is fit for it, it is better to live the householder’s life. In order to fix the mind in the Self which
is its true nature it is necessary to separate it from the family of fancies (samkalpas) and doubts
(vikalpas), that is to renounce the family (samsara) in the mind. This is the real asceticism.
23. It is an established rule that so long as there is the least idea of I-am-the-doer, Self-knowledge
cannot be attained, but is it possible for an aspirant who is a householder to discharge his
duties properly without this sense?
As there is no rule that action should depend upon a sense of being the doer it is unnecessary to
doubt whether any action will take place without a doer or an act of doing. Although the officer of
a government treasury may appear, in the eyes of others, to be doing his duty attentively and
responsibly all day long, he will be discharging his duties without attachment, thinking ‘I have no
real connection with all this money’ and without a sense of involvement in his mind. In the same
manner a wise householder may also discharge without attachment the various household duties
which fall to his lot according to his past karma, like a tool in the hands of another. Action and
knowledge are not obstacles to each other.
24. Of what use to his family is a wise householder who is unmindful of his bodily comforts and
of what use is his family to him?
Although he is entirely unmindful of his bodily comforts, if, owing to his past karma, his family
have to subsist by his efforts, he may be regarded as doing service to others. If it is asked
whether the wise man derives any benefit from the discharge of domestic duties, it may be
answered that, as he has already attained the state of complete satisfaction which is the sum
total of all benefits and the highest good of all, he does not stand to gain anything more by
discharging family duties.
25. How can cessation of activity (nivritti) and peace of mind be attained in the midst of household
duties which are of the nature of constant activity?
As the activities of the wise man exist only in the eyes of others and not in his own, although he
may be accomplishing immense tasks, he really does nothing. Therefore his activities do not stand
in the way of inaction and peace of mind. For he knows the truth that all activities take place in his
mere presence and that he does nothing. Hence he will remain as the silent witness of all the
activities taking place.
26. Just as the Sage’s past karma is the cause of his present activities will not the impressions
(vasanas) caused by his present activities adhere to him in future?
Only one who is free from all the latent tendencies (vasanas) is a Sage. That being so how can the
tendencies of karma affect him who is entirely unattached to activity?
27. What is the meaning of brahmacharya?
Only enquiry into Brahman should be called brahmacharya.
28. Will the practice of brahmacharya which is followed in conformity with the (four) orders of
life (asramas) be a means of knowledge?
As the various means of knowledge, such as control of senses, etc., are included in brahmacharya
the virtuous practices duly followed by those who belong to the order of students (brahmacharins)
are very helpful for their improvement.
29. Can one enter the order of ascetics (sanyasa) directly from the order of students
Those who are competent need not formally enter the orders of brahmacharya, etc., in the order
laid down. One who has realized his Self does not distinguish between the various orders of life.
Therefore no order of life either helps or hinders him.
30. Does an aspirant (sadhaka) lose anything by not observing the rules of caste and orders of
As the attainment (anusthana, lit. practice) of knowledge is the supreme end of all other practices,
there is no rule that one who remains in any one order of life and constantly acquires knowledge
is bound to follow the rules laid down for that order of life. If he follows the rules of caste and
orders of life he does so for the good of the world. He does not derive any benefit by observing the
rules. Nor does he lose anything by not observing them.
1. What is the light of consciousness?
It is the self-luminous existence-consciousness which reveals to the seer the world of names and
forms both inside and outside. The existence of this existence-consciousness can be inferred by
the objects illuminated by it. It does not become the object of consciousness.
2. What is knowledge (vijnana)?
It is that tranquil state of existence-consciousness which is experienced by the aspirant and which
is like the waveless ocean or the motionless ether.
3. What is bliss?
It is the experience of joy (or peace) in the state of vijnana free of all activities and similar to
deep sleep. This is also called the state of kevala nirvikalpa (remaining without concepts).
4. What is the state beyond bliss?
It is the state of unceasing peace of mind which is found in the state of absolute quiescence,
jagrat-sushupti (lit. sleep with awareness) which resembles inactive deep sleep. In this state, in
spite of the activity of the body and the senses, there is no external awareness, like a child immersed
in sleep (who is not conscious of the food given to him by his mother - The acts of sleeping children like eating and drinking are acts only in the eyes of others and not in their own.
They do not therefore really do those acts in spite of their appearing to do them.). A yogi who is in this state
is inactive even while engaged in activity. This is also called sahaja nirvikalpa samadhi (natural
state of absorption in oneself without concepts).
5. What is the authority for saying that the entire moving and unmoving worlds depend upon
The Self means the embodied being. It is only after the energy, which was latent in the state of
deep sleep, emerges with the idea of ‘I’ that all objects are experienced. The Self is present in
all perceptions as the perceiver. There are no objects to be seen when the ‘I’ is absent. For all
these reasons it may undoubtedly be said that everything comes out of the Self and goes back to
6. As the bodies and the selves animating them are everywhere actually observed to be
innumerable how can it be said that the Self is only one?
If the idea ‘I am the body’ is accepted (The idea that one is one’s body is what is called hrdaya-granthi (knot of the heart). Of the various knots
this knot, which binds together what is conscious with what is insentient, is what causes bondage), the selves are multiple. The state in which this idea
vanishes is the Self since in that state there are no other objects. It is for this reason that the Self is
regarded as one only.
7. What is the authority for saying that Brahman can be apprehended by the mind and at the
same time that it cannot be apprehended by the mind?
It cannot be apprehended by the impure mind but can be apprehended by the pure mind.
8. What is pure mind and what is impure mind?
When the indefinable power of Brahman separates itself from Brahman and, in union with the
reflection of consciousness (chidabhasa) assumes various forms, it is called the impure mind.
When it becomes free from the reflection of consciousness (abhasa), through discrimination, it is
called the pure mind. Its state of union with the Brahman is its apprehension of Brahman. The
energy which is accompanied by the reflection of consciousness is called the impure mind and its
state of separation from Brahman is its non-apprehension of Brahman.
9. Is it possible to overcome, even while the body exists, the karma (prarabdha) which is said
to last till the end of the body?
Yes. If the agent (doer) upon whom the karma depends, namely the ego, which has come into
existence between the body and the Self, merges in its source and loses its form, will the karma
which depends upon it alone survive? Therefore when there is no ‘I’ there is no karma.
10. As the Self is existence and consciousness, what is the reason for describing it as different
from the existent and the non-existent, the sentient and the insentient?
Although the Self is real, as it comprises everything, it does not give room for questions involving
duality about its reality or unreality. Therefore it is said to be different from the real and the
unreal. Similarly, even though it is consciousness, since there is nothing for it to know or to make
itself known to, it is said to be different from the sentient and the insentient.
1. What is the state of attainment of knowledge?
It is firm and effortless abidance in the Self in which the mind which has become one with the Self
does not subsequently emerge again at any time. That is, just as everyone usually and naturally has
the idea, ‘I am not a goat nor a cow nor any other animal but a man’, when he thinks of his body, so
also when he has the idea ‘I am not the principles (tatwas) beginning with the body and ending with
sound (nada), but the Self which is existence, consciousness and bliss’, the innate self-consciousness
(atmaprajna), he is said to have attained firm knowledge.
2. To which of the seven stages of knowledge (jnana-bhoomikas)* does the sage (jnani) belong?
He belongs to the fourth stage.
3. If that is so why have three more stages superior to it been distinguished?
The marks of the stages four to seven are based upon the experiences of the realized person
(jivanmukta). They are not states of knowledge and release. So far as knowledge and release are
concerned no distinction whatever is made in these four stages.
The seven jnana bhoomikas are:
1. subheccha (the desire for enlightenment).
2. vicharana (enquiry).
3. tanumanasa (tenuous mind).
4. satwapatti (self-realization).
5. asamsakti (non-attachment).
6. padarthabhavana (non-perception of objects).
7. turyaga (transcendence).
Those who have attained the last four bhoomikas are called brahmavit, brahmavidvara,
brahmavidvariya and brahmavid varistha respectively.
4. As liberation is common to all, why is the varistha (lit. the most excellent) alone praised
So far as the varistha’s common experience of bliss is concerned he is extolled only because of the
special merit acquired by him in his previous births which is the cause of it.
5. As there is no one who does not desire to experience constant bliss what is the reason why all
sages (jnanis) do not attain the state of varistha?
It is not to be attained by mere desire or effort. Karma (prarabdha) is its cause. As the ego dies along
with its cause even in the fourth stage (bhoomika), what agent is there beyond that stage to desire
anything or to make efforts? So long as they make efforts they will not be sages (jnanis) . Do the
sacred texts (srutis) which specially mention the varistha say that the other three are unenlightened
6. As some sacred texts say that the supreme state is that in which the sense organs and the mind
are completely destroyed, how can that state be compatible with the experience of the body and
If that were so there would not be any difference between that state and the state of deep sleep.
Further how can it be said to be the natural state when it exists at one time and not at another? This
happens, as stated before, to some persons according to their karma (prarabdha) for some time or
till death. It cannot properly be regarded as the final state. If it could it would mean that all great
souls and the Lord, who were the authors of the Vedantic works (jnana granthas) and the Vedas,
were unenlightened persons. If the supreme state is that in which neither the senses nor the mind exist
and not the state in which they exist, how can it be the perfect state (paripurnam)? As karma alone is
responsible for the activity or inactivity of the sages, great souls have declared the state of sahaja
nirvikalpa (the natural state without concepts) alone to be the ultimate state.
7. What is the difference between ordinary sleep and waking sleep (jagrat sushupti)?
In ordinary sleep there are not only no thoughts but also no awareness. In waking sleep there is
awareness alone. That is why it is called awake while sleeping, that is the sleep in which there is
8. Why is the Self described both as the fourth state (turiya) and beyond the fourth state (turiyatita)?
Turiya means that which is the fourth. The experiencers (jivas) of the three states of waking, dreaming
and deep sleep, known as visva, taijasa and prajna, who wander successively in these three states,
are not the Self. It is with the object of making this clear, namely that the Self is that which is different
from them and which is the witness of these states, that it is called the fourth (turiya). When this is
known the three experiencers disappear and the idea that the Self is a witness, that it is the fourth,
also disappears. That is why the Self is described as beyond the fourth (turiyatita).
9. What is the benefit derived by the sage from the sacred books (Srutis)?
The sage who is the embodiment of the truths mentioned in the scriptures has no use for them.
10. Is there any connection between the attainment of supernatural powers (siddhis) and Liberation
Enlightened enquiry alone leads to Liberation. Supernatural powers are all illusory appearances
created by the power of maya (mayashakti). Self-realization which is permanent is the only true
accomplishment (siddhi). Accomplishments which appear and disappear, being the effect of maya,
cannot be real. They are accomplished with the object of enjoying fame, pleasures, etc. They come
unsought to some persons through their karma. Know that union with Brahman is the real aim of all
accomplishments. This is also the state of Liberation (aikya mukti) known as union (sayujya).
11. If this is the nature of Liberation (moksha) why do some scriptures connect it with the body
and say that the individual soul can attain Liberation only when it does not leave the body?
It is only if bondage is real that Liberation and the nature of its experiences have to be considered. So
far as the Self (Purusha) is concerned it has really no bondage in any of the four states. As bondage
is merely a verbal assumption according to the emphatic proclamation of the Vedanta system, how
can the question of Liberation, which depends upon the question of bondage, arise when there is no
bondage? Without knowing this truth, to enquire into the nature of bondage and Liberation, is like
enquiring into the non-existent height, colour, etc., of a barren woman’s son or the horns of a hare.
12. If that is so, do not the descriptions of bondage and release found in the scriptures become
irrelevant and untrue?
No, they do not. On the contrary, the delusion of bondage fabricated by ignorance from time immemorial
can be removed only by knowledge, and for this purpose the term ‘Liberation’ (mukti) has been
usually accepted. That is all. The fact that the characteristics of Liberation are described in different
ways proves that they are imaginary.
13. If that is so, are not all efforts such as study (lit. hearing) reflection, etc., useless?
No, they are not. The firm conviction that there is neither bondage nor liberation is the supreme
purpose of all efforts. As this purpose of seeing boldly, through direct experience, that bondage and
liberation do not exist, cannot be achieved except with the aid of the aforesaid practices, these
efforts are useful.
14. Is there any authority for saying that there is neither bondage nor Liberation?
This is decided on the strength of experience and not merely on the strength of the scriptures.
15. If it is experienced how is it experienced?
‘Bondage’ and ‘Liberation’ are mere linguistic terms. They have no reality of their own. Therefore
they cannot function of their own accord. It is necessary to accept the existence of some basic thing
of which they are the modifications. If one enquires, ‘for whom is there bondage and Liberation?’ it
will be seen, ‘they are for me’. If one enquires, ‘who am I?’, one will see that there is no such thing
as the ‘I’. It will then be as clear as an amalaka fruit in one’s hand that what remains is one’s real
being. As this truth will be naturally and clearly experienced by those who leave aside mere verbal
discussions and enquire into themselves inwardly, there is no doubt that all realized persons uniformly
see neither bondage nor Liberation so far as the true Self is concerned.
16. If truly there is neither bondage nor Liberation what is the reason for the actual experience of
joys and sorrows?
They appear to be real only when one turns aside from one’s real nature. They do not really exist.
17. Is it possible for everyone to know directly without doubt what exactly is one’s true nature?
Undoubtedly it is possible.
It is the experience of everyone that even in the states of deep sleep, fainting, etc., when the entire
universe, moving and stationary, beginning with earth and ending with the unmanifested (Prakriti),
disappear, he does not disappear. Therefore the state of pure being which is common to all and
which is always experienced directly by everybody is one’s true nature. The conclusion is that all
experiences in the enlightened as well as the ignorant state, which may be described by newer and
newer words, are opposed to one’s real nature.
May this book consisting of the words of experience, which have come out of the lotus heart of
Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, shine as a lamp of true knowledge to illuminate the true minds of
those who have renounced (the world).
May the world be blessed for long with the feet of Guru Ramana who abides as that silent principle
which absorbs all of us and remains by itself as the root of the three principles (soul, world and